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Planning Application 15 Hatfield Grove/Objection/Comment - PA No: 24/91338GB & 24/01337GB
24/00522/B, 24/91039/B, 24/01072/CON
Comment from 17 Hatfield Grove
20 December 2024 As interested persons
status
Dear Planning Committee
Please see below our further comments regarding the new applications as all detailed above, we
have left all remaining comments below as they all form part of the application.
For the record, our letter dated 28/11/24 - did not provide the timeframe required to complete our
further comments.
After reviewing the new applications, we now provide our further comments for consideration.
The new application 24/91338GB in connection with 24/01337GB, request for a single storey
erection of a new building and demolishing of the old building in a conservation area. We (
have serious concerns over the demolishing of this building, linked with Asbestos and the
implications for our property and how they intend to not only demolish this, concerning the material
aspect and the rebuilding of this, without access to our land, which we will never provide or agree
to. We will not give any access to rear of our property, this is our private land and as the owners we
are within our rights to refuse access, after such a stressful few months, from the aggression of the
proprietor and the builder working at 15 Hatfield Grove. As you are aware a Noise complaint has
been raised with Environmental Health Team and a complaint with the Police, which we very much
would have preferred this was not the case, however after the attendance of the planning officers
following the appeal process with the cabinet Office, we were left with no choice.
Our first comment in reference to their application, under the planning policy, Strategic Policy 4,
particular reference to (b) & (c) - respects the site and surroundings in terms of the siting, layout,
scale, form, design and landscaping of buildings and the spaces around them - we believe no
consideration has been given with this particular point in respect of the impact to our property 17
Hatfield Grove. Respect is not a word in their vocabulary, the impact from the demolition and the
rebuilding will impact us and our surroundings, which we remain objective to this.
With regard to the overshadowing and the overbearing, aspect, the application does not explain the
impact on the amenities to our property other than they state this is minimal. Once again, we
remain that the application does not provide clear height for the apex of the roof, and this could
have an impact regarding overbearing and overshadowing on our property.
Our decision remains standing regarding the se further comments as detailed below, should you
need to include these regarding the conservation of this particular area in Douglas.
I note there has been amendments to the application regarding the guttering/facia which we have
not been notified. Sorry I have spent far too much time involved with this case, please arrange for
letters to be sent to us in the post as interested persons, as I intend to spend the xmas with family
and not thinking about this horrible situation.
Thank you
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Further to the notification displayed in the property of 15 Hatfield Grove, dated 17 May 2024 and
that of a letter placed into our mailbox, 17 Hatfield Grove Douglas, IM1 3HE, dated 10 May 2024, we
would like to express our deepest concerns at the planning request to demolish a single-storey
extension and the erection of a rear two-storey extension, to the above said property, 15 Hatfield
Grove, Douglas. Our comments for objection;
- Loss of light - if the 2 storey building is accepted, this would restrict the light into our
property severely in our kitchen and dining/lounge area, and we both along with our
extended family living in the property, feel that this would be detrimental to our health. We
as the property owners of 17 Hatfield Grove, believe that the loss of light through our
windows on our property, would have significant impact to our health, this includes our
wellbeing and most importantly mental health.
- As a Conservation area, we also feel very strongly to the erection of a 2 storey building right
next door, this would invade our space with the removal of the wall facing inside our
property 17 Hatfield Grove, as we currently have decking placed and secured to the wall, to
allow the family to sit outside in the daylight. Currently we have a maximum 15 hours,
daylight including sunlight between 8am - 3.30pm, daily, to have the erection of the two-
storey extension will block our daylight via the windows within the kitchen and
dining/lounge area and will also restrict the daylight/sunlight in the outside area we
currently sit out in daily weather permitting, for health reasons.
- The planning application will also cause overshadowing and we would be overlooked which
would have an overbearing impact to all the family residing at this property. This would
further implicate our privacy and ability to feel secure on our own property.
- Previous planning application has been rejected in 2011. No. 23 Hatfield Grove, siting design,
projection and height would result in demonstrable harm to the residential environment of
No.21 Hatfield Grove in terms of overshadowing, loss of light, being overbearing and being
visually intrusive.
We therefore as a family strongly comment to the request for the above planning application to be
rejected, as detailed in points 1, 2, 3 & 4. Please feel free to contact us as a family should you require
further understanding of our comments raised.
Email received from the Cabinet Office dated 23 /09/24 - inviting further comments and offer to
have a face to face hearing at a cost if desired.
Appeal from proprietor states they do not believe the addition of the extension is likely to
exacerbate the level of overshadowing for the reasons;
- They believe our property is already shaded until mid-day to late afternoon, and unlikely to
have any effect on this.
- They believe the proposed extension benefits from facing close to south meaning that the
proposed extension will be outside the path of the sun by 11am, demonstrated by a diagram
that reflects different position for the light available.
- The proprietor believes the proposed outlook from the ground floor would differ given an
already extension in place and from the first floor we feel the proposed extension would not
create an overbearing impact given that the neighbouring windows are set away from the
boundary wall and the lookout is towards the back of an existing two storey terrace.
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- The proprietor believe 17 Hatfield has a flat roof construction in the rear yard and decking
which has been fixed to the party wall is likely to true cause for objection.
- Basically the proprietor believes that our entitlement to the sun which differs
between the seasons, is not valuable from daylight and would not impact us. This sunlight
has significant impact to our health not only in the outside yard, on occasions due to my
mental health, my bedroom faces the rear yard and currently the natural light & sunshine is
in my bedroom until around 2pm sometimes longer dependant on the weather. When I am
not well, I am able to sit next to the window and benefit from the direct sunlight for several
hours. This 2 storey building will impact this significantly therefore we further comment to
this appeal to reject their appeal to the planning application, already rejected as set out in
the report kindly provided as we have interested person status.
will address each point of their comments to appeal the rejected planning
application of 15 Hatfield Grove, with our further comments to reject this appeal.
- The outside yard is not shaded until mid-day late afternoon, to the contrary I will attach
some photos for your reference. Taking into account the different seasons. We strongly
object to this.
- The diagram displayed in the appeal from the proprietor, we strongly disagree to this, in
addition they are confirming that the light will be blocked that is already in our yard
from approximately 5am dependant on the season, until at least 11 am/midday,
sometimes early afternoon. This is the most important part of the day, where the
daylight is good for your health. I will of course attach further photos to reflect the light
in our outside yard that would be restricted should the 2 storey planning application be
allowed. This would be detrimental to our health as we approach 60 years. We believe
the light at times, dependant on the season and sunshine, can be much longer.
- We strongly disagree that the proposed outlook from the ground floor would not differ
as there is already an extension in place, and would not create an overbearing impact.
The current position of the already in place one storey extension, has a pitched roof
which allows the natural light and sunlight to be present from the early hours until mid-
afternoon, the proposed extension, taking their comments surrounding the lookout
towards the back, would have significant overbearing impact as this would block the
natural/sunlight in the outside yard and that of the dining area and kitchen in our one
storey extension, in line with the conservation area. This would significantly reduce the
light within this area and be overshadowing.
- With regards to their comments regarding a flat roof construction, this is a 6 x 4 metal
shed, with a board on top to prevent the high winds removing the top of the shed and
the objects contained within this, blowing away. Freestanding and no roof construction.
The decking is fixed to the bottom of the wall under the decking, and with the
agreement of the previous proprietor. We can remove the fixings to the wall and apply
our own fixings/small pillars to secure our decking, if there remains objection to this.
To conclude, this whole process has been totally distressing, the worry and added anxiety as we live
in a conservation area, and the planning application to apply a 2 storey extension, we remain with
our initial decision and the outcome to reject this as set out in the report, provided to both
as interested person status, as also set out in our additional comments to 2 further proposed
applications 24/91039/B & 24/01072/CON
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Yours sincerely
(17 Hatfield grove)
Please provide written confirmation via email and post for our records upon receipt of these
comments, which will be emailed to,
[email protected]
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